Joker: Folie À Deux is heading to streaming, just weeks after its theatrical release.
The movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga,
will be available to rent from home starting October 29, in an effort
to recoup some of Warner Bros. investment into the film, as per Variety.
The musical, which bombed at the box office, is 'poised to
lose at least $150 million to $200 million in its theatrical run' according to the publication.
The movie studio spent about $200 million to
produce the film and about $100 million on marketing and distribution,
according to the report.
It would need to gross about $450 million at the box office to break even — when factoring in the cut taken by theaters —
though Warner Bros. sources claim the number is $375 million.
Joker: Folie À Deux, starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga,
is heading to streaming, just weeks after its theatrical release; Phoenix and Gaga seen in a still
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A Warner Bros. spokesperson responded to the report, saying 'Any
estimates suggested by anonymous "insiders" or "rival executives" are grossly wrong and continues
a trend where rumor is reported as fact.'
'The film continues to play in theatrical release,
included with this week's opening in China,
and will continue to earn revenue throughout its home viewing and ancillary run.'
So far, the musical about Batman's nemesis has grossed $51.5 million domestically and $165 million globally after two weeks of release.
In comparison, the first Joker grossed $96.2 million domestically and $248.4 million globally after three days of release.
The hotly-anticipated sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning
film was considered a surefire hit for Warner Bros
Pictures, yet ended up being slammed by critics and failed to ignite at the box office.
Joker: Folie À Deux has garnered the lowest CinemaScore in comic book
movie history as the film bombed at the box office on opening
night.
The psychological musical thriller — which has been criticized
as 'bleak' and 'disappointing' — officially released in theaters on Friday, October 4.
Phoenix reprised his role as the Joker in the sequel, which had earned him an Oscar for his portrayal in the 2019 film, while Gaga
took on the role of Harleen Lee Quinzel (Harley Quinn).
However, Joker: Folie À Deux has been given a D rating on CinemaScore — the lowest score
for a comic book movie.
The movie will be available to rent from home starting October 29,
in an effort to recoup some of Warner Bros. investment into the film, according to Variety
The film is 'poised to lose at least $150 million to $200 million in its theatrical
run' according to the publication
The sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning film
was considered a surefire hit for Warner Bros, yet ended up
being slammed by critics and failed to ignite at the box office
Phoenix reprised his role as the Joker in the sequel, which had earned him an Oscar for his portrayal in the 2019
film, while Gaga took on the role of Harleen Lee Quinzel (Harley Quinn)
Madame Web — which notably also flopped in theaters earlier this
year and also received terrible reviews —
holds a higher score with a C+.
On Rotten Tomatoes, the movie currently holds an audience score of 31% and a critic score of 32%.
The sequel has been roundly criticized for being a musical and
'ignoring' the DC fanbase - with an agent familiar with director Todd Phillips' process telling Variety he 'wanted nothing to do with DC' during the making of the film, with
DC bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran notably absent from
the film's LA premiere afterparty last month.
A source said: 'If the first movie was about some down-on-his-luck, mentally ill guy in a
downtrodden city, it makes maybe $150 [million] worldwide.
Not a billion. People showed up because that guy was Joker.'
In an apparent snub by Phillips, the opening sequence of the
film does not include a DC Studios logo.
A Warner spokesman added that a DC logo appears at the end of the Joker sequel, while Phillips declined to comment to the publication.
Several frictions are said to have developed between Phillips, DC and Warner- with claims that Michael DeLuca, Chairperson of Warner Bros.
Entertainment, and CEO Pamela Abdy seemed
'unwilling' to say no to Phillips due to his huge
past successes.
It is claimed Phillips would 'only' speak with DeLuca and Abdy rather than Gunn
and Safran - who took control of DC two months before production began on Joker 2 in December 2022.
Gunn and Safran did attend the first director's cut screening for the studio but
Phillips fueled rift speculation when he told a reporter: 'With all due respect to them,
this is kind of a Warner Bros. movie.'
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav also
met with Phillips shortly after WarnerMedia and Discovery
merged in April 2022 and was 'open to filming in Los Angeles if the director would make the sequel
at a lower price point.'
The studio wanted to film in London which would have cost around 20 per cent less.
A source directly involved with the film recently shared: 'The one thing about
genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to
fail'; director Todd Phillips seen with Gaga and Phoenix
at the LA premiere September 30
However, Phillips insisted on filming in LA with the budget remaining static.
A Warner spokesman told the publication the studio 'supported the decision to film in Los Angeles'.
A source directly involved with the film said:
'No one could get through to Todd. And the one thing about genre stuff:
If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail.
Insiders also claim studio bosses did not want to premiere the film at the Venice Film Festival, but Phillips
pushed back - with a Warner spokesman saying the studio 'fully supported
the decision to bring the film to Venice.
Along with Gaga and Phoenix, other stars that had appeared in the sequel include
Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beatz and Steve Coogan.
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Anthony Albanese has tried to claim his relationship with Alan Joyce
was a strictly professional one between a Prime
Minister and a corporate titan, as he battles claims the Qantas
boss was his 'personal travel agent' for free flights and upgrades.
However that characterization of the relationship was at odds with that made by Mr Joyce, who said he was 'good mates' with Mr Albanese and
had been 'for years'.
In the wake of the explosive claims that the Prime Minister
had Mr Joyce arrange free tickets and upgrades, Mr Albanese distanced himself
from the Qantas chief.
When asked about about their relationship
on Sunday Mr Albanese implied it was purely in a professional capacity, having been Transport Minister and shadow transport spokesperson before becoming Prime Minister.
'He (Joyce) was the CEO of the national airline ...
I had the same relationship with him that I have with John Borghetti as the CEO of Virgin,' Mr Albanese said.
That assessment was at odds with the many photos showing Mr Albanese and Mr Joyce apparently greatly enjoying each other's company.
Mr Albanese and Mr Joyce were pictured in high spirits on the red carpet at the Qantas
100th Gala Dinner in March last year.
In photos from the event, Mr Joyce proudly walks the red carpet with one arm
around the prime minister and the other around Mr Albanese's
partner, Jodie Haydon.
Just five months later, in August, a smiling Mr Albanese attended Qantas's unveiling
of it's special 'Yes 23' emblazoned airplanes for the Voice referendum.
Former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce jovially walked the red carpet
with one arm around the prime minister and the other around his partner, Jodie Haydon for a special anniversary event last year
Mr Joyce was seen touching Mr Albanese's arm, with the PM bursting into laughter.
Even when Scott Morrison was PM, Mr Joyce enjoyed an apparently
close relationship with Mr Albanese as the
pair stood close together at the launch of
the Qantas' landmark Perth to London flight in March, 2018.
During a Senate hearing in September 2023, Mr Joyce said he had been 'friends for years' with Mr
Albanese.
Asked about why he gifted Mr Albanese's son Nathan a membership to the prestigious and exclusive Chairman's Lounge Mr Joyce refused to confirm or deny but talked up his relationship
with the Prime Minister.
'I've been good mates with Albo for some time,' Mr Joyce said.
However, the then Qantas CEO refused to say whether he lobbied
the Prime Minister on the controversial decision to lock
competitor Qatar Airways out of domestic routes.
It has since emerged in a new book about Qantas,
The Chairman's Lounge, by former Australian Financial Review columnist
Joe Aston that Ms Haydon is also a Chairman's Lounge member.
Mr Albanese and Mr Joyce also appeared to greatly enjoying each other's company at a Qantas event in August last year
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Reports have emerged in a new book Mr Albanese received 22 upgrades from economy from Qantas and he would liaise personally with the former airline boss for them.
Aston also alleged Mr Albanese directly contacted Mr Joyce while in his various parliamentary jobs to ask for special upgrades
for himself or his family.
According to unnamed Qantas 'insiders' 11 of the 22 flights Mr Albanese received upgrades for were 'privately funded' and included overseas trips to Rome, London, Los
Angeles and Honolulu, with some being for holidays.
Mr Albanese insisted on Tuesday that the London flights was for work purposes and all were 'declared in the appropriate way'.
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has leapt on the accusations describing Mr Albanese as being the
'best friend' of Mr Joyce.
Mr Dutton told Sky News on Monday night it was 'strange' Mr Albanese had directly contacted
Mr Joyce to request upgrades while holding a regulatory position in the
transport sector.
'If you're the Transport Minister and you're picking up the phone to one
of the most important stakeholders in the portfolio asking for a free upgrade, then again, I think the Prime Minister would be able to answer those questions more effectively than anyone else
because I'm not aware of anyone else having done it,' Mr Dutton said.
It has since emerged that Ms Haydon also has membership of the Qantas Chairman's Lounge
The Prime Minister denied frequently asking Mr
Joyce for upgrades on Tuesday at press conference in the NSW city of
Newcastle.
'The only discussions that I can recall with Alan Joyce certainly were not discussed through calls
- we discussed the first flight from Australia to Dubai on the A380,
' he said.
'I've declared everything in accordance with all of the
rules.'
Aston was asked on Monday night by ABC interviewer Sarah Ferguson about how confident he was that Mr Albanese had made calls personally to Mr
Joyce for upgrades.
'I am very comfortable with my sourcing,' Aston said.
Asked whether he thought Mr Albanese had been influenced by Mr Joyce's lobbying to block UAE airline Qatar domestically Aston said it
was 'implausible' to think that the Prime Minister's office had nothing to do with the decision.
Mr Albanese's son Nathan, 24, has reportedly also been granted access to the Qantas Chairman's Lounge (pictured,
Mr Albanese and son Nathan in May, 2022)
'It's very hard to imagine a decision of any political
sensitivity in the Albanese government that would not go through the Prime Minister's office,' Aston replied.
He noted the opening up of the Australian domestic market Qatar had seemingly
been sailing through with Transport Minister Catherine King speaking warmly about the proposal until 'everything changed' to stop it dead in tracks.
Ms King repeatedly denied in parliament the decision to block Qatar was due to Qantas lobbying
her or any Labor colleagues.
Despite Mr Albanese claiming he declared every upgrade received from Qantas the Australian Financial Review reported on Tuesday that
he failed to do for his former wife Carmel Tebbutt when the two traveled together.
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has questioned the alleged personal requests Mr Albanese made to Mr Joyce while in his various
parliamentary jobs
Even when Scott Morrison was prime minister, Mr Joyce appeared to have a close relationship with Mr Albanese (the pair are pictured at an event in 2019)
Sky New host Sharri Markson on Monday night labeled Mr Joyce as 'basically Albanese's personal travel agent.'
'This is all a question of integrity. Most Australians struggle to afford
even an economy airfare. They'd never be able to afford the luxury of business class.
It's out of our reach,' she said.
'Can Albanese truly be impartial when it comes to making decisions about Qantas when he's been getting
tens of thousands of dollars worth of free upgrades to business class?
The revelations puts the decision he made as transport minister and prime minister under a cloud.
'Aside from the integrity issues, this revelation is also politically lethal.
Albanese took care to curate a self-image of a housing commission boy who made it.
But now the perception is cementing of a long-term pollie enjoying the perks of public office.'
Another awkward paradox of Mr Albanese's apparent close relationship with Mr Joyce is that the Labor leader in a trade unionist advocate while Qantas attempted to break the power of the Transport Workers Union by sacking 1700 staff during Covid.
The sacking has since been ruled illegal by Federal Court in a case brought by the
union with Qantas facing possible hundreds of thousands in compensation payouts.
The friendship however did find one perhaps unlikely defender in semi-retired 3AW radio
star Neil Mitchell.
'Quick test: upgrade Albo is a bad look,' Mitchell wrote on X.
'But does anybody believe he was seriously compromised by having Alan Joyce as a bestie?
Time to rewrite rules governing politicians.'
WHAT IS THE QANTAS CHAIRMAN'S CLUB?
The Qantas Chairman's Lounge is an invitation-only club approved by the company chairman, with the
guest list a closely-guarded secret.
It has been dubbed ¿the most exclusive club in the country¿ and comes with a distinct black
card.
Members include senior-ranking MPs including
ministers, state premiers and the Prime Minister, leaders
of major unions and sporting groups, Qantas ambassadors, selected A-list celebrities, major corporate figures
and high-profile media personalities.
The clubs can be found in Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide but are not signed, you have to know where to look.
Inside you will find expensive wood and brass furnishings,
wool carpet and marble flooring all bathed in natural light.
Members enjoy fine à la carte dining with a complimentary premium array of beers, spirits and Australian wines.
Wine bottles are often given as departing gift
Facilities may also include spas, showers and an assortment
of books and magazines.
Members may bring in two guests at a time.
Lounge attendants personally alert you when your flight is to board
and your personal preferences are logged for each flight.
Membership also entitles you to first-class facilities at Qantas
partner airlines.
free upgrades where they are available and a hotline to
Qantas's customer service for any and all travel needs.
Source: Executive Traveller
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Joaquin Phoenix's wife Rooney Mara blushed as he fixed
her dress on the red carpet at Academy Museum Gala in LA on Saturday.
For the star-studded affair located at the Academy Museum
of Motion Pictures, Rooney, 39, joined her dashing husband Joaquin, 49.
The couple - who 'secretly wed' recently - looked happier
than ever as they posed for sweet snaps on the carpet.
Rooney looked out of this world as she slipped into a floral sheer dress and
flashed her underwear underneath.
The glitzy gala had no shortage of A-list star power as they were
also joined by the likes of supermodel Kendall Jenner as well as fan-favorite actress and newly minted billionaire
Selena Gomez.
Joaquin Phoenix's, 49, wife Rooney Mara, 39, blushed as he fixed her dress on the red carpet
at Academy Museum Gala in LA on Saturday
Rooney and Joaquin shared a sweet red carpet moment
Joaquin just confirmed Rooney (born Patricia) was his 'wife' during an episode of Sam Fragaso's podcast Talk Easy,
last month.
Mara welcomed their second child in June, and she dressed her post-baby body gorgeous sheer gown.
Phoenix (born Bottom) and the two-time Oscar nominee are also parents of four-year-old son River Mara Phoenix named after Joaquin's big brother who died, age 23,
from an overdose of morphine and cocaine on Halloween 1993.
'I love it. I love it so much. I think it's the best thing in the world,' Rooney
gushed of motherhood on the LaunchLeft Podcast last year.
'It doesn't feel like a two-actor house because I didn't work for the first
three and a half years we were together.
Basically since we've been together, I only worked one
or two times and one was really small and short.
It feels like a creative household, we're constantly talking about creative things.'
The Phoenixes originally met in 2012 playing lovers Theodore Twombly
and Catherine Klausen on the LA set of Spike Jonze's AI rom-com Her, but they didn't start dating until after her
2016 split from her Discovery director Charlie McDowell.
The acting couple went on to co-star in Garth Davis' 2018 Biblical drama Mary
Magdalene and Gus Van Sant's 2018 comedy Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot.
For the star-studded affair located at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures, Rooney joined her
dashing husband Joaquin
The couple - who 'secretly wed' recently - looked happier than ever
as they posed for sweet snaps on the carpet
Rooney looked out of this world as she slipped into a floral sheer dress and flashed
her underwear underneath
Mara welcomed their second child in June, and she dressed her post-baby body gorgeous sheer
gown
Rooney posed for a sweet photo with Amy Adams inside the ceremony
The acting couple originally met in 2012 playing lovers Theodore Twombly and
Catherine Klausen on the LA set of Spike Jonze's AI rom-com Her (pictured),
but they didn't start dating until after her 2016 split from her Discovery director Charlie McDowell
Joaquin just confirmed Rooney (born Patricia) was his 'wife' during an episode
of Sam Fragaso's podcast Talk Easy
Rooney and Joaquin also co-narrated Chris Delforce's 2018 vegan documentary Dominion as well as co-producing Alex Lockwood's 2022 pandemic documentary
The End of Medicine and Jonah Hill's 2022 therapy
documentary Stutz.
Mara told Deadline in February that she and Phoenix (born Bottom) are still 'all committed to'
co-starring in Pawel Pawlikowski's upcoming film The
Island but 'it doesn't look like that will happen this
year.'
But first, audiences can catch the New York native as waitress Julia in Alonso Ruizpalacios' Times Square kitchen drama La Cocina, which hits limited US theaters
October 25 and UK theaters December 26.
Meanwhile, the Grammy winner scored a $20M paycheck
to reprise his Oscar-winning role as psychopathic comedian Arthur Fleck/Joker in Todd Phillips' $190M-budget sequel Joker:
Folie à Deux, which hits US/UK theaters this Friday.
Deadline projected the 138-minute demented jukebox musical to
earn $140M worldwide opening weekend including $55M-$60M at
4K US theaters.
It also features Lady Gaga, Zazie Beetz, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener,
Jacob Lofland, and Harry Lawtey.
Thus far, Joker: Folie à Deux has a 60% critic approval rating (out of 58 reviews) on Rotten Tomatoes.
The 1981-set first film Joker made history in 2019
as the highest-grossing R-rated film of all time, amassing $1.079B at
the global box office despite mixed reviews.
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Beyonce went topless as she paid homage to iconic duo Prince and Apollonia in her latest
Halloween costume.
The superstar, 43, took to Instagram on Friday with her second look
from spooky season, after previously dressing up as Betty Davis.
She channeled both the late Purple Rain hitmaker and his protégée turned lover, Mexican model Patricia 'Apollonia'
Kotero.
While roleplaying Apollonia, the Single Ladies hitmaker sizzled in a plunging black lace bustier under an open tuxedo jacket, before taking
it off and posing in nothing but metallic purple gloves.
Meanwhile her version of Prince consisted of a purple coat with
a white frilly shirt, black lace underwear, and a matching purple guitar.
Beyonce, 46, went topless as she paid homage to iconic duo Prince and Apollonia in her latest Halloween costume
The superstar took to Instagram on Friday with her second look from spooky season, after previously
dressing up as Betty Davis
'PURPLE NASTY,' she captioned the post, along with a purple heart emoji
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'PURPLE NASTY,' she captioned the post, along with a purple
heart emoji.
Another snap saw the star close-up, as she showed off
her sensational figure in the low-cut bodysuit.
The mom-of-three paired the outfit with thigh-high
purple boots.
She wore raven curly tresses that cascaded down her shoulders,
and accessorized her Apollonia look with a chunky diamond necklace.
She followed it up with her as Prince sitting on a vintage red car and holding up her guitar,
while sporting a short curly-hair look.
Her fans went wild for the outfits, with one writing: 'ROCK ERA LOADING MAMAMAMMAAAAAA.'
Khloe Kardashian left a number of purple heart emojis
on the post.
'Beyonrock,' another fan added.
Apollonia had the lead female role in Prince's 1984 film Purple
Rain, where she starred as Apollonia 6, which also became the name of her girl band.
Appollonia and Prince parted ways in 1985 but
she managed to stay in the spotlight with a
role on the soap Falcon Crest and in 1988 the release of
an eponymous album.
She channeled both the late Purple Rain hitmaker and his protégée turned lover,
Mexican model Patricia 'Apollonia' Kotero
While roleplaying Apollonia, the Single Ladies hitmaker sizzled
in a plunging black lace bustier under an open tuxedo jacket, before taking it off
and posing in nothing but purple gloves
Meanwhile her version of Prince — who died of an accidental overdose in 2016 — consisted of a
purple coat with a white frilly shirt, and a matching purple guitar
She wore black lace underwear and short curly hair
Her guitar strap featured a cheetah pattern
She accessorized her Apollonia look with a chunky diamond necklace
The singer sizzled in the revealing look
Her fans went wild for the outfits, with one writing: 'ROCK ERA
LOADING MAMAMAMMAAAAA'
'Beyonrock,' another fan added in the comments
Khloe Kardashian left a number of purple heart emojis on the
post
Apollonia had the lead female role in Prince's 1984 film Purple
Rain, where she starred as Apollonia 6, which also became the
name of her girl band; they are seen in a still
Appollonia and Prince parted ways in 1985 but she
managed to stay in the spotlight with a role on the soap Falcon Crest and in 1988 the release of an eponymous album; seen in 1991
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It is not clear when Apollonia's relationship with Prince began or ended
as he was dating another one of the stars of Purple Rain during the
making of the film, Susan Moonsie.
Prince and Beyonce famously joined forces onstage at
the 2004 Grammy Awards, performing a medley that included his iconic 1984 single Purple Rain.
Their duet also included her fan favorite number Crazy In Love, which saw him
accompany her on the electric guitar.
Afterwards, Prince gave an interview in which he shared his appraisal
of Beyonce's musical abilities when they worked together.
'I was really curious as to how much she knew musically, and I was
really pleased to find out that she knew a lot about scales - Mixolydian scales and Egyptian styles and different things like that,' he said.
'And I was just trying to show her some chords on the
piano and help her to respect the fact that if she learns piano à la Aretha Franklin and
Ray Charles and things like that, the sky's the limit as to what
she could do, 'cause she's so very talented.'
Prince died of an accidental overdose in 2016
at the age of just 57.
Earlier this year Beyonce posted a heartwarming Instagram montage of
herself wearing a t-shirt promoting Prince on what
would have been his 66th birthday.
Beyonce's Prince costume comes after she transformed into a busty Betty Davis for Halloween on Thursday.
Prince and Beyonce famously joined forces onstage at the 2004 Grammy Awards, performing a medley that included his iconic 1984 single Purple
Rain
Earlier this year Beyonce posted a heartwarming Instagram
montage of herself wearing a t-shirt promoting Prince on what
would have been his 66th birthday
Beyonce's Prince costume comes after she transformed into a busty Betty Davis for Halloween on Thursday
The songstress went braless in a plunging
zebra print leotard as she recreated the iconic singer's look
on 2005 compilation album, This Is It.
The skimpy ensemble featured furry statement shoulders and showed off the singer's
incredible toned legs and curves.
She completed the ensemble with white cowboy boots and a dramatic pop of red lipstick.
The legendary funk singer and ex-wife of jazz great Miles Davis,
died at the age of 77 in February 2022.
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Joker: Folie À Deux director Todd Phillips 'wanted nothing to do with DC' during making
of the $200million flop film, a new report has claimed.
The hotly-anticipated sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning film
- stars Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga and was considered a surefire hit for
Warner Bros Pictures - but was slammed by critics and failed to
ignite at the box office.
The sequel has been roundly criticized for being
a musical and 'ignoring' the DC fanbase - with an agent familiar with Phillips'
process telling Variety he 'wanted nothing to do with DC' during the making
of the film, with DC bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran notably absent from
the film's LA premiere afterparty last month.
A source said: 'If the first movie was about some down-on-his-luck, mentally ill guy
in a downtrodden city, it makes maybe $150 [million] worldwide.
Not a billion. People showed up because that guy was Joker.'
In an apparent snub by Phillips, the opening sequence of the film does
not include a DC Studios logo.
On Rotten Tomatoes, the movie currently holds an audience score of
31% and a critic score of 32%
The hotly-anticipated sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning film - stars
Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga - seen with Phillips last month - and was considered a
surefire hit for Warners Bros Pictures - but was slammed by critics and failed to ignite at the box office
A DC spokesman said Gunn was directing the Max series Peacemaker in Atlanta, which had lost a day of production due to
Hurricane Helene, while Safran was sick.
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A Warner spokesman added that a DC logo appears at the end of the Joker sequel.
while Phillips declined to comment to the publication.
Several frictions are said to have developed between Phillips, DC and Warner- with
claims that Michael DeLuca, Chairperson of Warner Bros.
Entertainment, and CEO Pamela Abdy seemed 'unwilling' to say no to
Phillips due to his huge past successes.
It is claimed Phillips would 'only' speak with DeLuca and Abdy rather than Gunn and Safran - who took
control of DC two months before production began on Joker 2 in December
2022.
Gunn and Safran did attend the first director's cut screening for the studio but Phillips
fueled rift speculation when he told a reporter: 'With all due respect to them, this is kind of a Warner Bros.
movie.'
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav also met with Phillips shortly
after WarnerMedia and Discovery merged in April 2022 and was 'open to filming in Los Angeles if the director
would make the sequel at a lower price point.'
The studio wanted to film in London which would have cost around
20 per cent less.
However, Phillips insisted on filming in LA with the
budget remaining static.
The sequel has been roundly criticized for being a musical and 'ignoring'
the DC fanbase - with an agent familiar with Phillips' process telling Variety he 'wanted
nothing to do with DC' during the making of the film, with DC bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran notably absent from
the film's LA premiere afterparty last month
A Warner spokesman told the publication the studio 'supported the decision to film in Los Angeles'.
A source directly involved with the film said: 'No one could get
through to Todd. And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations
are, you're going to fail.
Insiders also claim studio bosses did not want to premiere the film at
the Venice Film Festival, but Phillips pushed back - with
a Warner spokesman saying the studio 'fully supported the decision to bring the film to Venice.
Joker: Folie À Deux has garnered the lowest CinemaScore in comic book movie history as the film bombed at the box office on opening night.
It has only made $114million worldwide against its
$200million budget.
The psychological musical thriller — which has been criticized as 'bleak' and 'disappointing' — officially released in theaters on Friday, October 4,
but it only raked in $20 million at the domestic box office, per The Hollywood
Reporter.
Phoenix reprised his role as the Joker in the sequel, which
had earned him an Oscar for his portrayal in the 2019 film, while Gaga took on the role
of Harleen Lee Quinzel (Harley Quinn).
However, Joker: Folie À Deux has been given a D rating on CinemaScore — the lowest score for
a comic book movie.
Madame Web — which notably also flopped in theaters earlier this
year and also received terrible reviews — holds a higher score with a C+.
On Rotten Tomatoes, the movie currently holds an audience score of 31% and a critic score of 32%.
The sequel is projected to rake in less that $50 million at the domestic box office during the entirety of opening weekend, per The Hollywood Reporter.
Weeks ago, the movie had been projected to bring in around $70 million - but the
number has since drastically dropped.
Joker (2019) notably opened with $96.2 million when the film first released in theaters - and eventually landed a little over $1
billion in the global box office.
The first movie - which was also directed by Todd Phillips - had a budget of between $55 and $70
million. However, the budget increased for Folie À Deux to around $200 million.
The 2019 movie garnered praise and positive reviews
from both critics and audiences - and won the Golden Lion during the 76th Venice
International Film Festival.
Joaquin received an Oscar for Best Actor for his portrayal of the Joker (Arthur Fleck) - and the film garnered
an additional Academy Award for Best Original Score.
The sequel also screened during the Venice International Film Festival last month in September, where it earned a 12-minute standing ovation, per Deadline.
A source directly involved with the film said: 'No one could get through to Todd.
And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail.
However, audiences have since taken to X after the movie released in theaters on Friday -
and shared their opinions on the sequel, which features
musical sequences.
One fan penned, 'Joaquin Phoenix don't deserve this.
what happened to the script?' while another added, 'is it that bad,' followed by
a crying face emoji.
'Ironically I feel that a musical, if done well, could
have been a good choice. It'd show how much of an unreliable narrator Fleck is,' one typed.
'But with some original songs, that keep everything vague, not just covers.
Also when I heard of the ending I snorted fr.'
A social media user wrote, 'Stop making sequels as musicals if the original wasn't a musical.'
'Maybe he [Phillips] only had an hour long movie, and decided to randomly add musical scenes to
fill the runtime,' one penned.
'Joker downfall really needs to be studied,' another shared, along with a monkey staring out
a window.
One fan said, 'the movie sucks. i had to walk out of the
cinema,' while another penned, 'After years of disagreement....*Joker 2
releases* Critics [shaking hands] Audience.'
However, audiences have since taken to X after the movie
released in theaters on Friday - and shared their
opinions over the sequel, which was also a musical
'Ironically I feel that a musical, if done well, could have
been a good choice. It'd show how much of an unreliable
narrator Fleck is,' one typed
'Joker downfall really needs to be studied,' another shared, along with a monkey staring out
a window
'That's way below what we expected,' one wrote in regards to the current Rotten Tomatoes scores.
'People are saying this is the worst sequel ever.'
A fan explained, 'yea this film was bad. it was pretentious
and dull. has the aesthetic of an arthouse film without the substance.'
'It also insults the audience's intelligence. the songs
were also underwhelming too. they shouldn't have let this escape
to theaters.'
One shared, 'The audience that loved the first movie is not the same
audience running to see musicals. This was a gigantic mistake from
step 1.'
During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Phillips discussed whether he would be interested in making a
third Joker film or a movie centered around Gaga's character.
'It's not really where this movie is headed for me. I feel like
my time in the DC Universe was these two films.'
Ahead of the movie's release, Lady Gaga also dropped an accompanying album titled Harlequin on September 27.
Joker: Folie À Deux has been branded the 'most disappointing follow-up to the Oscar-winning movie' by critics,
as they cast doubt on Lady Gaga's 'thin' role in the film
following its release on Friday.
'That's way below what we expected,' one wrote in regards to the current Rotten Tomatoes scores.
'People are saying this is the worst sequel ever'
A fan explained, 'yea this film was bad. it was pretentious and dull.
has the aesthetic of an arthouse film without the substance'
The 'bleak' sequel, has also received a tepid reception from fans, with
some claiming Lady Gaga's career could be at risk.
While the same director Todd Phillips was back in the hot seat, critics have said the sequel is just a 'repeat' of the first hit
but with an added musical twist.
Most critics have said Todd failed to use Gaga correctly
in the movie and claimed she was only bought in for the musical aspect of it.
While the majority of critics say Joker: Folie À Deux didn't live up to expectations, others have dubbed the
movie 'bold' and 'brilliant.'
Daily Mail's Brian Viner commended the move as
'bold' and 'brilliant' but said it lacked any thrill.
The Independent's Geoffrey Macnab said: 'Today Joker is best remembered as one of
the most subversive and original films of the last decade, while its hugely anticipated sequel is
just as bleak and formally daring as its predecessor'.
Meanwhile, the Irish Times' Donald Clarke gave the movie just two stars but
credited Phillips' work for making a sequel following the first movie's
$1billion success.
Financial Times critic Danny Leigh said although Gaga worked hard to bump the ratings up in the sequel, Phillips appeared to have no idea what to
do with her.
Giving a three star rating, The Guardian's Peter Bradshaw claimed the movie
proves 'claustrophobic' and 'repetitive.'
Joker: Folie À Deux has been branded the 'most disappointing follow-up
to the Oscar-winning movie' by critics, as they cast doubt on Lady Gaga's 'thin' role in the
film following its release on Friday; seen in September in London
The Times' Kevin Maher wrote: 'The director Todd Phillips said there would be no follow-up to the original, but he changed his mind and
the result is a derivative musical'
'This might be the most disappointing follow-up to an Oscar-winning performance since Anthony
Hopkins reworked his silky and terrifying Dr Lecter from for the campy,
kitschy.'
Along with Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix, other stars that had appeared in the sequel include Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beatz and Steve Coogan.
Joker: Folie à Deux has faced additional backlash from fans as they have claimed that Gaga is running the risk of losing her acting career.
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